Friday, February 20, 2009

don't think cause i'm easy, i'm naive

Tried 10 man maly with the guild last night. Only had an hour, so 5 wipes, no loots. At the end, we were getting to the third phase, but outta time.

Thersa weird dynamic at work. The weekday group has two kinda weak dps. And they're hurting us. With a 3 healer 10 man set up, you really can't afford weak dps. Especially since they're both ranged dps. And both locks.

I could really use some advice on how to dps assa lock. Especially a decent dest build or two.

Anyway, three posts in a week... I promised to talk about the whole gold thing. But really... greedy goblin is pretty good on things. But I think he puts too much time in on things.

Um... I got two chars doin the cooking quest every day. This results in about 30 northern spices which I can sell for between 20-30g fer a block of 10.

I do the JC quest everyday... this gets us a dragon's eye, which goes for about 150 now, down from 400 a coupla months ago.

And I sell glyphs. I'm kinda proud of this one. I get Icethorn or Adder's Tongue, and mill them. The herbs cost me about 40-42 a stack. I usually get a snowfall ink outta them, which I can sell for 45. And then I also get 5-7 ink of the sea outta them, which I can make glyphs from. My glyphs go from 12-35 g each, depending on competition. Maj can now make every glyph in the game. I sell between 5-20 glyphs a day. Armor and weapon vellums also sell well...

BTW... theres also a lot of money to be made on the JC side of things. uncommon gems turn to enchanting materials quite easily, and saronite ore is quite cheap. However... these are getting burned in house to level my chanting skills.

11 comments:

Megan said...

Affliction/Destro does good damage, but the player has to be smooth with his rotations and DOT uptime. Anything like lag, no brain, tunnel vision will lead to poor DPS.

The "easier" but a bit more gear dependent (read: hit cap AND good spell/crit/haste all in one) is hybrid Demo/Destro (Felguard/Emberstorm) or even full Demo/Destro (Metamorphosis/Ruin). Both builds play similar to the nuke happy specs that TBC Destro Locks were used to with the addition of the Felguard which amazingly scales a lot better now.

Lock DPS isn't hard though, I do 3K+ DPS in my PVE gear + PVP spec (20/51/0) + PVP glyphs.

Dagashai said...

Um... no brain kinda fits these guys. Took 2 weeks to get em to start usin curse of elements.

But they geared, as far as that goes.

And they doin about 1,7-1,9 dps over a full naxx clear. maybe 2.2 on some boss fights.

Can I bother Your Most Noble Lethalness fer a link or two to send em?

Elleiras said...

I hope you only have one of them using Curse of Elements. ;) And even then, only if there isn't a Moomkin or Unholy Death Knight in the raid, since it doesn't stack with those buffs.

I agree with Megan on the Felguard/Emberstorm build. All other things being equal, Haunt/Ruin will do better DPS — but it requires the warlock to be on top of his or her DoT rotation. Felguard/Emberstorm is far more forgiving. It's actually the build I've been running with since I had to switch to raiding on my laptop, which averages about 3fps in raids. I'm doing about 3.7K DPS with this spec.

I can't link the build from work, but if you want to see it, Armory Sarielle on US-Black Dragonflight.

Glyphs are (from memory) Curse of Agony, Immolate and Felguard.

The rotation is very simple: keep Curse of Agony (or Elements), Corruption and Immolate up at all times, spam Incinerate as filler, and use Demonic Empowerment on every cooldown.

Also, if they aren't doing it already, have your warlocks drop a Demonic Circle right next to the orb that summons Malygos. They can teleport back to it during Vortex phases and continue to DPS while the rest of the raid is spinning uselessly through the air. The caveat is that they'll have to watch threat during the first Vortex or two.

I'm typically top DPS on P1, simply because of my ability to DPS through the Vortex. It makes a huge difference, especially if there are flares on the ground.

P2 is warlock unfriendly: since melee get first dibs on the discs, we're left DoTing whatever we can reach while running from bubble to bubble, and will typically trail behind on damage.

Elleiras said...

... I meant "Moonkin." WTB spellcheck, PST. >.>

Dagashai said...

Thnx a ton ell... that should help a lot!

Posolutely said...

If they're only hitting 2.2k on boss fights, they are really gimping themselves if they're geared -- obviously this depends on the boss fight.

Make them respec affliction, and stand in front of target dummies until they can keep their dots up without clipping them.

One using CoE, one using CoDoom to help the rotations be less difficult at first.

Especially if its just for Malygos (a stand there and do dmg and not move a lot) kind of fight.

If you want to see a hit-capped spec, check out Absitively on Alleria.

If they aren't hit capped, make sure they're getting the talents to give them the extra % towards it.

Ngita said...

Ours both seem to have ended up as full domo, 4k for full clear pushing 5k on pw.

As for gold while I made all I need in first month of wotlk with (dis)enchanting. I normally run cooking+the 4 wg dailys since its just so easy and I get honor as well.

BM said...

Granted I have never raided as a lock. Nor have I leveled one past lvl 30 yet. A few of the locks in the guild that I am in run with a 0/41/30 Felguard/Emberstorm hybrid build linked below and others use various builds (1 afflict/destruct and 1 Demo lock).

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZ0xIzsgMq0sxzZVchqr0uV

or another site that might be useful for looking at most popular cookie cutter builds is

http://www.talentchic.com

hope that helps.

BM said...

Granted I have never raided as a lock. Nor have I leveled one past lvl 30 yet. A few of the locks in the guild that I am in run with a 0/41/30 Felguard/Emberstorm hybrid build linked below and others use various builds (1 afflict/destruct and 1 Demo lock).

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZ0xIzsgMq0sxzZVchqr0uV

or another site that might be useful for looking at most popular cookie cutter builds is

http://www.talentchic.com

hope that helps.

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mage leveling guide said...

Hey Dagashai - I think the problem with your Warlocks is not their spec, but their mindset.

If they are serious about doing a good job, they would try to improve their spec/rotations by themselves once they notice their DPS falls behind.

Try to talk to them in private and find out how much time and energy they want to put into their character/skills/raiding. Then look at the improvements.