Thursday, December 6, 2007

A real bastard...

TJ... sweetie... A big wheel? I'm sorry... I thought you realized... I sent you snow for yuir birthday! Pure and clean, like my love for you! You didn't get it? I'll have em send some more...

Er... for X-Mas... it looks like I might inherit a man-whore. Would you be interested? He's not gay, he just strips for/sleeps with guys to pay for the drugs. He's gonna need a place in Maryland to crash over the holidays...

So anyway.. I hava problem with this whole blogging thing. I really doubt that I can add much to people's understanding of hunters or mages... so why bother writing bout em? Fun stories, yeah...

However, BG's are killing me. Maj lost four in a row trying to do her daily. I begin to think that the entire horde has joined a conspiracy to drive me crazy. So here's a guide, based on the teachings of one of the most ruthless and evil human beings to walk the earth.

Today... BG's in general.

First. The point of a BG is NOT to kill the other side. The point is to accomplish the victory conditions. The other side will try to stop you, and you will have to kill them to get them outta the way. But this is NOT the point. And if you go off killin allies (or horde) and ignoring all else, YOU WILL LOSE.

Herk was driving me crazy last week with the incredible missing honor mystery. He even said he sent in a ticket on it... He'd BG for a while, get up to 2k honor or so, then log in the next day, and a coupla hundred would be missing.

He didn't know what was goin on till I explained it to him. It really is something everyone should know by now, but it bears repeating. There is a diminishing return to honor kills. The first time ya kill an enemy char, ya get full honor. The second time, ya get half honor. Third time, ya get crumbs... after that, nothing.

This is done server time during rollover. The honor you see is the honor that your console estimates you get. It doesn't, and can't know, and can't calculate the fractions of honor you get from kills. (Remember, in BG's there are few unassisted kills, so you split the honor with others as well, leading to even more shrinkage...)

What does this mean? Killing the other side does you very little good, honor wise. So fer Christ's sake, leave the hell offa stupid fights.

The other thing people know, but don't seem to realize. Dying can be an advantage. You die, you come back within 30 secs with full mana or health at a nearby rez spot. BS in trouble, and you at LM? Jump and die, and you'll get there faster. And don't be afraid to charge into the enemy. One nice rule of thumb for the armor classes... the more people you can get to chase you down and kill you, and the longer it takes... the better. Thats a swarm of idiots that wont be capping flags or annoying the rest of your raid. So what if you die? You lose nothing, and you wasted their time.

When it comes down to it, BGs are won by the team that reacts the fastest, and gets more people to the target site the fastest. Or as NBF put it... "Get there firstest with the mostest." (He was borderline illiterate.)

Keep an eye on the damn map. Know how many peeps you got where, and who's in trouble. God damn to hell all idiots that can't be bothered to announce incoming over raid chat. And when you do, say how many, and how much help you might need...

"at least 3 inc to BE, only got one here defending, plz come help..."

Another map based thing... if one of your sites is getting slammed... grab a peep and hit one of the enemy sites... 8 enemy against 6 of you on one of yuir bases is a fair fight... and leaves something unguarded...

Defense is a force multiplier... if your team isn't mind boggling stupid, and can keep the flag from being capped, or the other team from establishing enough of a presence to flip an EotS base... yuil win. Every time you die, you come back in less than 30 secs at full health and mana... every time they die, itsa 30 sec rez and at least a 20 sec ride. Being outumbered by a couple is no big thing. You SHOULD win, unless outgeared or outplayed.

This is what makes WSG such a nightmare. It always comes down to trying to take a flag offa guy standing in/near his own rez spot... and every 30 secs, the other team comes back at full strength...

Last... keep movin. Unless yuir on D, you should either be fighting or running to a fight. Know where the enemy is rezzing. You just beat off that attack by 8 on the BS with your 6. They prob aint comin back. Know where they ARE going, and get there first. Doan sit around scratching your ass. It aint rocket science, there's usually only one or two possible targets. For the love of god... don't try attacking a target right before a big rez. If they attacking the LM... and they control stable and mines... ignore the stables... rezzers will keep popping up there... the mine will be a much quieter target of opportunity.

These things are simple... they come down to mobility, aggression and ability to keep yuir mind on the objectives.

7 comments:

Viet said...

Good tips. Wish everyone thought of these before entering a BG...

TJ said...

... big wheel... /whimper

ArmsandFury said...

Honestly, I think Horde should leave mine alone...

Group 1 BS
Group 2 LM
Group 3 2 members stay to defend

If you capture these 3 and play defense... it's easier for Horde to get to BS than Allaince... you should be able to keep them from capping.

The problem I have seen is people capping and running off... we have 3!!! Send 5 to Mine for a 4th!!!

LEAVE THE MINE ALONE!

Rubella said...

If everyone followed your advise BGs would be a helluva lot more fun. At least, I could delete my '/y STOP FIGHTING IN THE MIDDLE' macro.

Since Patch 2.3, have you seen a change in the way teams have approached BGs? My allie opponants seem to have gotten it together to tr some teamwork now that gold is on the line with the daily quests.

Megan said...

I have my handy dandy PUG macros at the ready.

EOTS - Flag means crap without 3 towers, flag = retard beacon, if you are a retard, go to the middle.

AB - I didn't know they put flags in the middle of the road between Mill and Farm, are we capping it?

WSG - Either support our FC, or get their FC, anything else reveals to me your intelligence.

AV - Cap their towers, defend our towers, and if you have less than 9K HP, go hug a GY flag somewhere so you don't cost us reinforcements.

ArmsandFury said...

MEGAN!!!

Those are all priceless!

Sabiba said...

You are my hero. I've been doing more BGs lately, and before 2.3 on my server, Horde was winning 2 out of 3 on just about everything but EotS. Now... I can pretty much count on one finger how many I've won. I'm going to point everyone I know who PvPs to this blog.

I want to beat my head against the keyboard so often, thinking that might get us to win. Sadly though, I know it wont.

Thank you for the wonderful information!

Sabiba & Sabertooth
Cenarion Circle